An Experimentation in Real Life - part I

As a young boy i did not read but learnt from people around me - the story of my experiments with truth.

in retrospect, the Mahatma has had a profound effect on me . Maybe not so much in being an ascetic but definitely in terms of beng foolhardly or having the courage to say the right thing sometimes even at the wrong moments. Also in terms of experimenting with life and its various facets only to learn more and more about it and myself.


I grew up constantly hearing people complain that the fast pace and eroding value system of life was rapdily transforming people into more inhuman mehcanical living beings rather than being emotinal beings with a quotient for societal and relational existence. I decided to experiment like Gandhi. Can one individual make a difference? The believers say Yes and the non-believers say Impossible and to me the confused individual it was a puzzle that i had to try to solve.


I put myself in the shoes of an individual everyone would judge. I became the experiment myself to reduce any side effects if any affecting anyone else who would be the subject to the minimum. I put myself on the anvil to be judged because that would reveal the true character of the people of the world in close measure to me.

I decided on a simple activity.. small to be almost unnoticeable and an optional activity for all of us and yet placed at a time of the day that it had the ability to impact manifold events of the day.

I decided to send "Good Morning" wishes to some individuals to see what happened. I chose this because since my childhood i like to wish people and i saw the incidence of wishing and greeting each other reducing around me and it is one small thing i want to revive around me.


At this moment many of those reading this can relate to my good morning and good day wishes that i send online or at times over the sms. Yes these small wishes are the treatment in the experiment. I started by wishing some people regulrly good morning and some also good night through emails. This was strange for many to receive nothing in an email apart from just "good morning have a nice day". It almost felt like spam for many. the responses to the wishes are interesting and make for a separate follow up blog on its own lest this on gets to be too long.


So after almost ten years of running this experiment what do i feel and how has it gone.. ? I wish this was an easy queston to answer.. the very fact that it has taken 10 years to answer reveals a lot. what started as simple wishes has seen many versions and multiple forms also.


The wishes can be sent online through email , through yahoo or gtalk messenger , through social network sites like facebook and twitter. The wishes can also take the mode of the mobile either from the handheld itself or through the internet through sites which give free delivery to mobiles for text messages within a limit.

Thus there are multiple people , multiple modes delivery, and one treatment .. and mutiple interpretations.. we will talk about each of these separately one by one in the following blogs..in the meantime feel free to send your interpretation of the wishes if you were receiving them.

The need for Systems Processes and strong Institutions

Today Everyone is talking about the ouster of Mohd. Yunus from Grameen Bank. Most of the discussion is judging its righteousness or the lack of it. My thoughts drift to a different reality. What do i learn from this event? a learning that stays with me for long.

Most young entrepreneurs entering the development / social / rural space in emerging markets and economies rarely realise what it really means when they say that there are so many other factors apart from performance that matter in order to survive and be sustainable. Politics and the burden of history or morality might be the most frequent or they might not, however the events of Bangaldesh and Grameen Bank highlight the need for systems , processes and strong institutions to effect development (whatever your definition of development might be) and the amelioration of people and thier lives.

Assume that Grameen Bank delivered a required service to some people of Bangladesh. ( please not i have not even claimed they are poor or needy). Also assume that the need for the service remains. What do events like the ouster of Mohd. Yunus mean for these people ? you can make your choice out of the options given below

a) uncertainty of whether the services will be the same or not.. for some if the services will be continued at all.
b) uncertainty if Grameen Bank will remain afloat and if so the uncertainty if their own investment and activities with the bank are safe or not. its an uncertainty of both the future as well as the risk exposure.
c) Loss of an inspiring figure and strong brand ambassador for Grameen bank and its services. This is likely to lead to another agency to deliver the same services and in an emerging economy the search costs can be susbtanital and the chances of committing an error high.
Given these three instinctive reactions from people. Do we realise that the strongest human instinct will stem from uncertainty of Future and the Financial and business risk they are exposed to ( some can read business risk as livelihood risk depending on the dependance on microfinance and Grameen for the respective livelihood).

If the unceratinty is about the future and the risk.. due to the sudden change in leadership..Do we need more evidence to see that leadership alone is not the best form of governance. It is clear that a governance system which survives beyond the individual leader, the larger than life founding father is an absolute must. How do we generate such non-indivudal leadership and directioning capability in an institution?

The answer is in making the Institution adaptive - capable of absorbing shocks like a crisis of individual leadership and resilient to be efficient and reduce the risk exposure of the clients. My Thesis is about creating such adaptiveness in institutions. ( you can get the same from this link...http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/library/ )one of the points that i highlight is the need for complete structures so that there is not one leader but more individuals are forced to come together and collectively work for the institution.

The open processes provide both flexibility and continuity by defining the routine procedures and leaving the speical requests to discretion. The binding force is nothing but a strong institution which is larger than the founder or the paternal / maternal individual leader. Suddenly the conclusion flows , to me at least smoothly.

To the youngest of entrepreneurs there is an important lesson - if you operate in an emerging economy or an environement where politics or some such external environmental force matters .... it is not a choice but an imperative that you need robust systems, superior processs and a strong institution to continue delivering services to those who require them.

The moral implication of this monologue is .. if the systems and processes are not in place and the weak institution crumbles - you might have to be ready to take the blame for breaching the faith of people twoards fulfiling their needs.

Year of CONSOLIDATION

Transformation

Rising

Making

Realization

Blossoming

Is there a pattern that you see? This might be the journey of a branch on a floral tree through different seasons and stages. For me it’s more like the story of the various stages of my doctoral studies. Blossoming included the start of my new job at IIM Indore. These are also the themes around which I lived my years as I led my life into a new phase altogether. Having completed five years of the journey I look back with satisfaction and some sense of achievement and loss. Satisfaction, I feel because I am satisfied with what I set out to do and what I achieved. Yes for satisfaction no one else but only me and those very very near and dear to me matter. Achievement I feel a little because moving in the mainstream while being different is not easy and I have survived so far. My experiments with life and my own convictions have not left me lacking good stead so far. There is also a sense of loss as I have made compromises on the time and togetherness I could have shared with those who matter to me. Economics it seems is more important in life than anything else as I realize. TANSTAFL – There Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. Well especially if you’re on the receiving side.

Here starts my learning, if you got to create free lunches. First get to the giving side.. give some free lunches and hope that more people may start giving. The surety is never there but this is the only way to have a probability.

So I start another new year.. trying to create change trying to put together the wide variety of experiences and learning that I have collected through my travels in geography, demography and sociography. I am consolidating my learning and experiences to make better sense of them. This year I also start my new job at the Centre for Management of Agriculture at IIM Ahmedabad. (http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/faculty-and-research/research-centers/cma.html). This sets up the need to and also enables me to consolidate my professional leanings and focus on being most productive to creating change where it is needed. Professionally this is clearly a year of Consolidation of the blossom in the last season.

Personally, Mridul is set to complete her thesis and we start our true journey of life together ( at least a new phase of it) as a couple shifting to officially one city of residence and therefore we also consolidate our life together. I also want to reconnect to the people and friends and individuals who have mattered and who inside the deep of my heart do still matter to me. A start has been made but much more needs to be done. Hence at a personal level also this looks like a year of consolidation.

So with folded hands and faith in my heart .. I welcome the YEAR of CONSOLIDATION.

Report Card - The year of BLOSSOMING

Just like every year i shall be putting up a report card out for everyone to see. Like every year (for the past 5 years) this year had a theme - it was the year of BLOSSOMING. At the start of the year i expected to complete my Doctoral Studies, get married and start my professional life as a management teacher and researcher. The expectations were definitely not modest but were loaded with many events of the past few and many years.

The PhD got over and i graduated in March. see here http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=221357&id=723865049. The happy go lucky soul was ready to start searching for happiness in the real world moving out of the cocooned environment of being a student. I was trying to be a little experimental. The PhD Left me feeling satisfied as i have mentioned in the opening blog for the year with the appreciation i received in Australia followed by Indore , Lucknow and back again at Ahmedabad. So some dissemination has happened and lots more is waiting to happen and focus must be on that in the first half of the coming year.

I also got married this year. see here http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=247130&id=723865049. Finally me and Mridul are one family. She has brought a lot of luck and focus to life and it has been giving rich dividends so far. Marriage starts with benefits of so much more love from new relatives and friends.. it also makes your old relatives look at you in new light and shower more love, especially if you have been a little rebel younger kid in the family. Marriage also delivers at times, like it did for me, benefits of home cooked food, a loving wife to look forward to when u leave office and more goodies like hot tea and snacks served to you with a round up for the day.. and no office gossip !!!

I also started my new job . see here http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=222840&id=723865049. I joined the Economics Area of IIM Indore and found myself in between a group of lovely people. We were able to expand the area from 3 to 6 people ,i,e, double the strength this year. We also launched some 3-4 new electives from the area in this year. We hopefully continue to be one of the highest rated areas in the institutes.

Professionally at IIM Indore i had a rewarding stay. I launched a new elective called the "Economics of Rural-Urban divide"(ERUD) that was well received by a bunch of very enthusiastic students who show a lot of promise of doing new and different things in the near future. I was also able to complete teaching in almost all programs of the institute - the MBA (PGP as we call it) first year, second year, The Doctoral Programme (FPM) and the one year Executive programme (EPGP) as well. I was also able to revise and rehash the "History of Management Thoughts" course for the doctoral students. The end of the year was exciting as i collaborated with other faculty to launch a new stream called the "Role of New Media in Management" which aims to look at communications , IT and Strategy aspects of new media and take it one notch higher to Management levels. ERUD looks at Rural and Urban areas with a theortical base , URP or Unlocking Rural Potential took a look at the same with a practical in-situ approach and saw the students visit DRI in chitrakoot ( http://www.chitrakoot.org). What could not be done was the development of UCRM or Understanding Culture for Rural Management and a connectivity conference fro the PURA work. We did a one day workshop on PURA in June (http://www.iimidr.ac.in/iimi/pages/posts/working-conference-on-pura-conceptualization-impact-assessment-and-implementation-issues162.php?p=10) which was graced by none less than Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam and Shri Arvind Mayaram of GOI. A research Proposal on Wastewater irrigation has firmed up and one case is set for publication while one more is in the pipeline. There was one paper at an international conference too http://econpapers.repec.org/paper/agsaare10/58885.htm

The year was marked with a short visits to Australia and Portugal overseas and to the rural areas of Andhra Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh. There was a fair bit of travelling and obviously with travelling comes learning. So there was a lot of learning this year too.

So the year did see a lot of blossoming and a lot of other things that i keep doing either kept on in reduced measure or were put on the backburner for a while...sure to return in the future..

The not so good patches of the year were - not enough time with parents and family .. not able to visit Dubai ...

And as we must move one.. we must enter the new year .. a new year.. a happy new year :) that leaves us happier and healthier.

Ek aadhi anniversary ka sukh

Ek aadhi anniversary ka sukh
Ek aadhe aane vale saal ka rukh
Aur hum dono ki rangeen ulfat
dil maange thodi si fursat....

ki dekhon teri aankhon mein
sapne sunhari palkon mein
ek haseeen rang-khushbu bhare gulistan ke
tere-mere masoom nazneen afsane ke

fursat ke do lamhe mile
to tera phir se deedar karoon
chukar tere mann ke taaron ko
fir tujhse ikraar karoon

aa hath pakad kar baith zara
ek chai ke cup se chuski lo
dhalte suraj ki kiran ko pakad kar
aasmaan ko naye rang do..

Ek aadhi anniversary ka sukh
Ek aadhe aane vale saal ka rukh
aur hum dono ki rangeen ulfat
dil maange thodi si fursat...

happy Half anniversary dear Mridul on our marriage

The Bihar Diaries

Writing for the first time after i joined IIM Indore and it takes a big event to move me out of the state of being silent on the blog.. the big event is my fascination with a geography and society called Bihar.

The election results of Bihar have sparked a multitude of thoughts within me. I am reminded of Lord of the Rings and the Star Wars or the Matrix trilogy as Nitish Kumar clearly emerges the Hero on whose shoulders there rests the hope of almost everyone in society around him. All hopes rested on one person .. there were many forces he was up against... and most of the hopefuls were unsure of how many forces will combine in his support and i stop the analogy there.. we have a HERO in the chief minister of Bihar. We have a story to tell and a moment to rejoice.

We the people of India have shown our commitment to development and to growth in action at the grassroots and not mere rhetoric of India Shining. The politics of India may seem to be in a far from ideal state but the election results in India are as good as it can get.

Why do i say so.. ? This is based on a partial understanding of Indian Politics and that comes as a disclaimer of a theory in the motions of formation.

The myth about elections:

1. Most of us educated anglophone urban individuals carry this impression that the rural individual, who actually votes and does not merely indulge in rhetoric like this blog entry, is illiterate and naive and exploited and first of all UNAWARE.

2. The politics is so decrepit that only money and caste equations drive politics and the objectives are narrow to individual vested interests.

My view of the truth about elections : as this is my view it is an interesting conjecture , a conjecture for being a viewpoint and interesting cause it comes from me .. an optimistic cynic as my friend Deepak Iyengar will like to call me.

My view of the elections and specifically the results:

1. India is not shining. the voters across the nation rejected the argument or belief of a shining India long back . We can still claim that those vote do not live in the India or are not connected or do not benefit from the India that shines. More interestingly , we can pursue the thought that India is not shining but the glitter of a lot that was not Gold has been last and so the shine on India is only comparative and hence most likely short-lived. That should be scary for many of us who have forgotten what it is to travel in Sleeper Class railway compartments and State Transport Buses but that proves the point that the voters know their stuff very well. Better than we know ours maybe.

2. Mere Rhetoric is not the modern mantra. Rhetoric needs to be backed by action. Voters are discriminating between mere rhetoric and a planned vision and following concerted action. The responses to the three seem to be very clearly different. ( Is that a hypothesis worth checking or is there enough evidence to prove that?). For a teacher of MBA students the nearest imperative is Where do the b-plans that i see in competitions and assignments lie on this continuum of mere rhetoric - planned vision - concerted action. Clearly less than 1 % reach the right extreme of the continuum. ( If not noticed.. then please notice the intended pun in using the "right" extreme of the continuum.). Sadly most of us miss out on this pun and hence never move in this direction of the continuum. As far as voters are considered, given an option mere rhetoric is neither necessary nor sufficient .. it is simply archaic and needs to be buried in its rightful place.

3. What is development?

This is the most interesting and debatable of the conclusions i draw.

The development sector, it seems, will perennially seek to figure out what development is and in that effort continually fail and strive for a better definition and in the process keep getting developed itself.

Clearly this development is about gaining depth , Accumulating Diversity and allowing it to thrive, resisting reactive actions and events, and of a straightforward action-oriented approach that is not restricted to few or that move closer to being holistic and simplistic.

I think this is the simple understanding of development that emerges from a development driven script of the elections and their results and we must bear in mind this was scripted by none other than the voter.

4. A Development Driven Script

As more and more people wrote about the vote for development i was thinking and questioning why do we say so and how can we be so confident about it ? As a researcher i was taught to believe nothing that was told to me and to ignore nothing that was told to me.

(This is the most crucial part of my blog and the only part where i say something that i think is intelligent).

The voter did not align on caste equations - i am unsure about that. I think we still have a caste formula that worked with the breaking of the M-Y combine and the focus on Mahadalits. If i go back to the voters understanding of development then the focus on Mahadalits makes perfect sense but there is greater meet in the realignment of the caste combine.

Earlier the Political affiliations decided what I gained and that decided in turn on what side of the beneficiary-non-beneficiary divide I existed as a voter. Now the alignment of castes is driven by development and my choice to be on what side of the beneficiary - non-beneficiary divide is determining my influence on my caste alignment. This radical shift in the thinking, in the minds of the voter, maybe .... subtle and unrecognized, has delivered that now caste alignments are based on how to bring greatest hope for development. and this is as traditional as it can get.

Only now we can link up that the definitions of development is different and more sharp in the minds of the voter and more localized too it seems. The development is not mere rhetoric but followed by a planned vision and even concerted action in some cases, the voters ability to give a clear mandate is recognized and the smart politician focuses on serving this mandate. And for politics in India in the post -independence and especially the post economic-reform era, this is as non-traditional as it can get.

Clearly the mandate of the people of Bihar ( the voters are supposed to represent them) is very very clear and enabling for a Chief Minister who understands it. However the pitfall that the CM has to avoid is his own casting as a HERO. Everyone now looks up to him and he runs the danger of developing a megalomaniac ego or a focus on enjoying the fruits of his hard work. I guess the Civil society has to understand the mandate that the vote is still for the hope and the evidence seen in the past but it is a mandate for continuing the hard work on the ground and the grassroots. The mandate is for the realignment of castes in new combinations that give hope to promote development powered by society and not by the schemes of the government. This subtle but radical shift is what in my opinion will determine a third term or a new government.

The Strange Coincidence of a being A BACHELOR

Now that i am all set to marry in less than a fortnight's time.. i can share this piece.. not that i could not have shared it earlier but then .. No one would have believed me.. and.. even now some are not going to believe me but then that's what this is about the coincidence of being believed and not being believed because people live by their own beliefs.

As a young bachelor ( i am not so young any more lols for many people ) there were coincidences of coming across beautiful maidens and vying for their attention... only to be saddened that most of them lacked the charm to hold attention beyond a particular duration and if they did hold the attention .. they lacked the simplicity of being "my types". it's about such coincidences that bachelorhood is about .. and not just in India but the world over.

Being an open guy who could say what was inside me .. only made things difficult and coincidences more common. here are some funny and not so funny experiences.. which reflect the times in which i lived my bachelorhood.

Two ladies treat me to an ice cream and cold drink each (for some long overdue favour ) and ultimately steer the discussion to ask "are we beautiful?" and sadly enough all that i could reply was "No Comments" .. (the bachelor was trying to be a Gandhian at that point of time) . Coincidence taught me later on .. if you want to Brew a relationship.. it pays to be non-Gandhian or else you as a matter of coincidence you need to have super -patience.

A girl is narrating a tale to me about herself and her friend and asks me "its like you and me and we know that we will not think of each other in an amorous way.. . right we wont?"...lo ls and not by coincidence i wonder what was the question.. will we or will we not ? and months later she says do i feel as if i am getting feelers from her .. cause someone else she was talking to thought so.. lols.. only by sheer coincidence could i feel the feelers someone else was feeling when she was talking to him. absolute ROTFL.

A girl tells me reasons why i would probably not get married so easily.. and repeats the same ones for herself and then asks me "don't we have a lot in common ?" .. i wonder is it by chance or design ? and whether we have a lot in common or we lacked a lot in common ? maybe it was just a coincidence....

i admire a girls dress and tell her that her dress looks beautiful and she asks me back "is it my dress that looks beautiful or me ?". coincidentally to her dismay i answer in the affirmative for the dress.. and then to make matters worse as a matter of coincidence she asks me why not her ? and i have to answer cause i cant see her at all .. the dress is all i can see ... she thinks this is the case for some other reason when all i meant to say was that the dress is so beautiful that i don't see anything else. lols.. Hail bachelorhood.. it coincides with peoples attempt to discovering the wrong meanings of your words, phrases, clauses and sentences.

i was travelling in a train .. the family on the opposite side had two daughters.. they were promptly pushed to the window as i sat towards to aisle. about five hours into the journey a discovery is made that i am about 10 years elder to them and they are allowed to change places and then five minutes later on it is known that i am still a bachelor.. and they are soon sitting cornered to the windows :) whatay coincidence to my bachelorhood.

I used to live in this small town in Gujarat called Anand and one day i meet one of my neighbours outside my bank and they introduce me to a boy .. a nephew who is in town from New Zealand.. and i wonder they have never introduced me to any nephew before.. in the late evening as coincidence will have i discover he has a sister who is to be married off....and i wonder who is more desperate for marriage "the girls parents and relatives" or "the bachelor"

I am travelling in a train and offer the seat next to me to a young girl who is standing since long due to the crowd. We hardly talk or speak and as the journey is about to get over ,she asks me if i want her phone number ! Is that coincidence or is it NOT!!!

Bachelorhood coincidentally changes the meanings of numbers.. my orkut list at a point in time had about 600 friends out of which 450 were male and 150 were female , linked had about 400 contacts out of which 70 were females and facebook had about 200 contacts out of which 60 were girls.. and yet coincidentally everyone seemed to think that i had too many females on my lists !!!

Another strange coincidence of Bachelorhood is that people remember the names of females who are your friends and the poor males are ignored and forgotten . Now this must be a coincidence.

However the high point of Bachelorhood in 21st century is being asked if i was married ..and then the next question is "how many children do you have"..i pointed out that i was unmarried and i was told that in the modern world you didn't need to be married to have children. and i wondered why they asked about marriage first and children later on and why not vice verse.. i guess only coincidence can explain this.

diclaimer: i am sure most of what i present has been experienced equally by women as well .. so bachelorhood is used in a much broader and gender neutral sense here.

Points to ponder for completing a Thesis .. you can feel good about

A Thesis can be a lot of fun .


There can be no statement as untrue as this. If you want to differ ask someone who has just tread the path.


Its a long as in LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOng process. There are few reasons in between to cheer , be happy or party about. There are few things to compete for (it seems). There are few guiding stars and you are unlikely to end a thesis without many guardian angels.


From the editing of chapters in the end to the conceptual diagrams at the start and the suggested readings all along, inputs to a thesis come in various shapes and sizes. Sometimes the most unexpected people give the most valuable tips and the most silly things can lead to the most valuable insights. There is however seldom an advice better than what my guide gave me early on... "The only way a building is made is brick by brick.."There is rarely something as true as this for a PhD or a full blown research.


So here is a small collection of principles for completing a Thesis you can feel good about.


a) Open up.. talk about your work.. to the right people and get their views ... while you talk .. talk less and listen more.. the only reason you want to talk is to get inputs from all possible. All research intends to ultimately find a universal law.. if yes then start with accepting universal diversity.


b) Close down...reduce the amount of diverse things you do in work and concentrate on few things.. the focus is not on diversity of things you do but on the depth and ability to complete the things that you do.. in the case of the thesis these are the various tasks of the thesis.


c) link laterally .. A thesis is a huge task like a mega project comprising of numerous small and odd tasks .. making them link up and scheduling them seems next to impossible at the start. so don't try to link up too many activities.. try to link up friends who can help you with them.. a do-it-ALL-yourself PhD is not a good idea for completion though a great idea for learning. The more you link to people the better ideas you will get and the more you will end up learning. The idea is not to do everything but be capable of doing everything yourself.


d) Having good people with whom you can share your emotions is important to complete the process. The process is like a fellowship of many different tasks and good people are the binding material.


e) You have the ups, downs, lateral links, the binders, and the filling? yes what do you fill the PhD with.. Nothing but Hard Work.


f) The PhD is a process of learning the process of doing research till you can produce a complete finished product. The stress is on learning the process... complete...finished...product.. and think if you were evaluating a thesis .. what would you want to see to convince you that it was a finished and complete and final product and that the process had been learnt on the way.. clearly the last can not be evaluated and is left to the guide so guides at times have to be harsh.. and for the same reason the examination committee gives you some amount of work to check the process learning.

g) Your THESIS will be evaluated and not YOU. so choose people to guide you towards completing a THESIS and examiners who know what to evaluate.

h) The only way to complete a Thesis is to KEEP GOING ON . Only when you keep going can you ever reach the light at the end of the tunnel.

These are neither necessary nor sufficient and neither comprehensive nor exhaustive and each one of us might add our own rules to the list..or even i may revise this in a few days time . However i expect these to be helpful to most PhD Scholars who want to feel good about their own Thesis.

I..I...am..I..= IIM I

It was a normal trip on a very well known route .. the same train .. the same destination .. the same bogie.. the start was different this time. It was Ahmedabad and not Anand.. and this time i need travel towards Mumbai from Indore only a few miles to the IIM indore campus instead of the 100 kms to kasrawad.

It was a wonderful morning except that it was earlier than the usual morning for me. There were the usual issues of not knowing if a taxi had been booked or if i had to arrange on my own , whom to contact at six on the morning but these are like the minor crease on an otherwise flat and smooth landscape.

The gate of IIM indore is built huge but in it's not so good looking condition is far from impressive but then many years back my sister had told me that IIMs are supposed to built people and not great buildings and gates. Never the less the hills of IIM Indore and the pleasant view there and the morning breeze definitely caught my fancy and my mobile was soon overworked as a camera.

The morning was extremely beautiful and it now seems as a good omen for things that were to come. Thus began a day of meeting old freinds and making new ones while meeting the director thrice. A faculty recruitment seminar thrown in between and more friends and fun times with them.. a crisis situation for a friend and a change in travel plans to work out things and a lovely lavish dinner from a friend and bhabhi that left me licking my fingers as i left the campus.

The meetings with the faculty of the economics area were freindly , open , and pretty informal making the going very smooth and nice. smiles exchanged , hands shaken and new friends made. Last but not the least was a phone call , an important one. but this is about Indore and how i see the city .. the campus is beautiful with huge spaces and hillocks and palash trees the flame the ground red as if there was a forest there :).

Indore has been an enigmatic city always for me.. a mix of the old and the new .. more like the new trying to fight the old to break free. This time too it was much the same. The shops looked similar, the roads are being constructed just as i remember them in 2003. The retail formats have moved in but either their names have changed or they have changed hands, the more swanky and flashy shopping destinations have come up. There are more avenues for the indulging consumer to indulge in behaviour that is more asssertive of money linked status than the depth of character that the city has been known for in the past.

However the city retains its past, the narrow bylanes and much more so nicely still. twain extremes are allowed to flourish together so far and that makes Indore unique apart from the little job offer that IIM Indore has offered me. I guess i have to spend more time in Indore than everyone had thought.

The Year of the "Blossoming"

For the past four years, the new years have begun customarily without resolutions and with the year being named.. as a year of... transformation - rising - making- realisation. This year must follow the tradition to be linked with the past and must add a new dimension to be a harbinger of the future.



The seed was transformed (germinated) and it 'rose' to become and then as it was 'made'.. its presence was 'realised' as a result of activities put into effect. Now the plant must blossom.. for there is no youth without blossom.. youth is a riot of colours, energy, a search for stability in constantly new things and innovations , nervous anxiety, idealistic and full of ideas of change and visions of the future and a lot of hard work .

The metaphor only indicates so must be this year.. full of various hues, energy, search for stability, innovations, nervous anxiety, idealistic and full of ideas of change and visions of the future and A LOT OF HARD WORK. the two months that have gone by for the year only confirm that this year is just that.

A mad rush to submit the defensible draft of the thesis to frantic paperwork for a trip and a chance meeting with a very dear school and college friend as a bonus in between.. things were on a roll in January. February only made it brighter more colourful and exotic but equally hectic as it saw me travel to Australia for a hectic trip along the river Murray seeing some of the most wonderful sites and meeting some of the most wonderful people and discovering some very innovative ways of trying to save and work the environment. Thanks Lin :) , Sue, Bethany, Christine, Prof Gandhi, Floriane, Marian, Alok ji, Anna and the others that we met on the way.

The 54th annual conference of the Australian Agricultural Resource Economics Society (AARES) was a pleasant break with the mini symposium for the project and me presenting some of my thesis work. the work was well received and got some nice discussion of some of the biggies and most relevant and exciting people in the field in Australia :) Indian Irrigation and its experience is sure a best seller.

The two day stopover at Bangkok was a concise tour of a almost a new world for me. The politeness of the people, their hardworking nature and the eagerness to help strangers really weaved a magic for a person like me. indeed i don't like to call myself a tourist. we, as Indians and a growing economy have a lot to learn from Thais. the secularism, the openness to strangers, the humanity is mind boggling if you can focus on it. despite being the prostitution capital of the world as some would call it, it is one of the safest place for women that i have ever come across and hats off to that:). What had me most enchanted was the simple but overarching love for beauty and artistic touch that the Thais have as their culture and still seek to espouse. Bangkok has been made a great showcase of the same.I wonder if this is true for their villages as well or is Thailand a dual existence like India.

Finally i also cleared my Thesis defense paving the way to convocate this year and finally put an end to the uncertainty that people around me have been forced to live with. So now the search is on for teaching positions which allow me to do research as well.

Coming back to a year that is one sixth gone by already.. the seed has transformed- risen- been made a plant- and its presence in the garden realised.. and now it should Blossom.

In the year of the 'Blossoming' i have visited the land of Thailand and Australia and moved much closer to my destiny by getting done and over with my PhD. Let us all enjoy the bloom ahead :)

Closing the YEAR of the REALISATION

If you can refer to the post http://vitalenergy.blogspot.com/2009_01_01_archive.html you will know why i called 2009 a year of the REALISATION and whats with the naming of the years.

2009 saw me enriched in knowledge and almost completing my thesis and realising my strengths and weaknesses. i realised that i can actually do a thesis and also design execute and complete a research on my own.. my thesis took me through existing knowledge in 8 domains, 3 states, 5 districts, 19 villages and 22 institutions and scanned and met over 600 farmers out of which 464 were interviewed. That's a large sample to manage and conduct any damn thing on my own.

The year also saw me realise about my thought process. i was working on the same issues this year as the Nobel laureate Elinor Ostrom and citing her works along with the other Nobel laureate Oliver Williamson. Our focus , fortunately, was not the same. it was a moment of pride to see my domain being honoured with global recognition.

the year saw me design the first course that i taught. Design Project Management , it was called for Strategic Design Management (SDM) Post Graduate students of the National Institute of Design (NID). Left me satisfied and convinced that i can teach well. The hard work that the students put in was not always reflected in their grades and i need to improve on that. The realisation that it is only a third of its type course in the world and the first in India was thrilling to some extent and challenging in all aspects. It left me wiser with many new ideas and almost baked material for publication. The highpoint was the last assignment which is a world class creation in a very very short duration of time. The achievement that the students took it up and actually did very well on it :) hats of to them. The critical fact not mentioned.. teaching DPM without much mathematics and i think we did fairly well.

The year saw me conduct a workshop for a group of women from Afghanistan. A challenge to design and deliver with no common language. The year also saw me conduct a 2-day workshop on contemporary HR issues along with Mridul in Faridabad and a guest lecture at NIRMA Institute of Development Studies, Ahmedabad . There were publications - a book chapter, two cases, and a second prize at a conference also. there was also fieldwork for a research project on institutional reforms in watershed institutions in AP.

The year was exceptionally good on the Social Entrepreneurship domain wherein i end up as advisor to four existing organisations - Bihar Development Trust, Kaushalya Foundation, Yardstick Services and the Entrepreneurship cell , Genesis at ISM. I am also being useful on a regular basis to Gurpawan , the founder of Genesis with his business idea which should soon hit the market.

The year started dull on IRMA Alumni Association front but ended up in comparatively better financial condition despite the global recession. The important facts are that we have been able to give the association a global flavour and initiate the decentralisation of the activities of the association. The association has made its mark in the ecosystem of IRMA and we see it becoming increasingly more important in the times to come. we ended the year with about 10 reunions across the globe which is the maximum for almost any alumni association across the world in a year with an alumni base of a little over 2000 spread all over the world.

The year ends on a note of realisation, there were many points when i let others decide for me and these did not augur well. Equally there were points when i let others decide and the decisions proved very helpful. The Method in the madness that underlies this is the clarity and the detail of the vision that guides the decision and not who makes the decision.

The year leaves me contemplating as i am still without a regular job that earns me regular income but not short of work.

Realisation in the YEAR of the REALISATION had meant to bring into concrete existence. With some amount of surety i realized that i have brought brand Bhammo into concrete existence. The consistent hard work , though often misunderstood, is likely to bear good fruit.

A tired man in the night says.. REALISATION dawns heavy at the end of a year and deep too !

A trip through time : Mahatma, LBS, Obama and the Globalised Populace

What does it mean to be in a flow.. and why is the flow of success so dangerous? think about these questions after this positive thought..

2009, Oct 2,
http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20091002/888/twl-gandhi-s-anniversary-a-moment-to-ref.html

President Obama revers and remembers Gandhi on the even of his birth anniversary.
and i am wondering how many of us really think about him or his ideals .. do we really want to remember him with reverence?

we are moving from being a developing to a affluent society and luxury and capitalism are in . India talks of affluence today and enjoying your earning by splurging on consumerism while America remembers Gandhi and his ideals. our youngsters are discovering 'open-mindedness' and rights to be themselves and not care a damn attitude. Most of us today have very strong opinions about us Indians and we know very little about Americans. On the contrary Americans know a lot about us and are wanting to learn traditional Indian cultural values as the way ahead.

1960 s
America basks in the glory of Capitalism and the land of hope with the big American Dream. there is Luxury and splurging in consumerism as the latest fad. the youngsters discover and build the free sex generation with a heavy input of drugs and hippie culture .Indians shun America for its capitalist ways and the cultural values and we try to preach Indian cultural values to America as the way ahead.

suddenly in the 60s a civil rights movement is born in America but is not noticed. Indians have strong opinions about Americans.

so now do we want to think and ponder on the questions :-

What does it mean to be in a flow.. and why is the flow of success so dangerous?
and
what leads to clarity at the end of the day ? a skeptical start or a confirmed bias?


...good day on the birth anniversary of Mahatma Gandhi and Lal Bahadur Shastri.

Just to add info Mahatma never thought it was "unclean" to clean and lal bahadur shastri on his foreign visits used to stay with ambassadors and cook his own meals to save foreign currency for the country as he was basically still a humble farmer.

numerical coincidence and not numerology

India sifted out of the Champions trophy .. and interesting is that the format of the tournament had seeded teams.. aus -1 south africa -2 new zealand -3 india -4 pakistan -5 sri lanka -6 england -7 west indies -8 . so what emerges is that all the even ranked teams are to return and the odd ranked team shall go to the semi final. what a coincidence! and this is not numerology please.

numerology will be if we can predict futher ..

Statement of a "Bride"

A chance discussion which i was making animated just for the sake of it led to certain questions that i present here. We were talking of shopping for a marriage and the bride's desire to look very different in an event that is once in a lifetime ( well for most of us in india it still is!).

my dear friend kept on telling me that the bride needs to shop for about a two months in advance for the ceremony and i enquired "what all does a bride need to shop for?". the unobvious answer was "dresses and accessories". unobvious cause if it takes two months to shop , you'd expect someoene to procure clothes for a UN initiative for the whole of Africa in the time duration. however as things are they are ! lols. Making my point clear that its only dresses that need to be bought my next questoin was "How many dresses does a bride need?" again the unobvious answer was 2-3 special ones for the marriage and about 10 for the week or so succeeding ceremonies when people and relatives come to "look" up the bride lols as if a new item has come in for display. so its 13 dresses takign 2 months to get bought and i was also informed that 90% women never wear these dresses more than once or twice ! such a criminal waste of money , i could float a civic organisation in that money and benefit 1 million people over the life of my marriage ! however things are ..they are...

so i asked my dear friend how much time does she need to shop for her dresses usually.. and she says she shops once in four months.. and can buy stuff for the whole year in one day.. my brain cells irked nad twitched ..."why is bridal shopping so inefficient and a criminal waste of time?" we are not celebrities that we need to work on one dress so much .. as if for a designer event lols. the marriage as a designer event is fun .. especially considering that the purpose of marriage is to "solemnise" a relationship between two people or two families.

never the less my worst rebellion was saved until later when i told my friend "its all about showbiz.. there is so much about shopping only to "look good" ( as if your confirmed you never look good otherwise!) and to "show" to people that you too can look good (reminds me of ratatouille.. anyone can look good). The most wonderful thing is that every girl as a bride wants to look different and in her effort to look different does exactyl the same things as a billion other brides and ends up looking exactly like a billion other brides.

So are we doing the wrong things for marriage ceremonies? or are we misinformed of our own desires? or is there a mismatch between actions and desires? or is it that we have forgotten that marriages are solemnised and the celebrations are ought to happen once they are successful adn not anticipating the success which might come or might not come. but most importantly why do we all want to different when to everyone we keep telling "i'm just liek anyone else!" why is it so easy to say and hard to believe that im just like anyone else - possessing the ability to do things my way .. even if its just way a billion other people do it. !

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The joy of a simple life

I was out on my Thesis Data Collection to the villages of India and i discovered the huge amount of sheer beauty India has..and i discovered amazing small facets of life that can transform one. here is one such facet i learnt in a non-descript village said to be the ancestral village of Bhutto family with a well still named after them.


I had often heard people saying and exclaim in desire that they want a simple life but i had totally failed to understand why they called it simple when they had such complex descriptions of that desired life. Like one wise person had once told me .. he wanted to settle at a place away from the city where all urban facilities would be available and where he could breathe free air and live with people who all loved him and expected nothing of him. Where his servants would take care of all his needs and where his sons and relatives and friends could come and spend their holidays and where he would sit down and write about the factories of software engineers.. i was left wondering.. he wants people to expect nothing from him.. isn't that a tall expectation?


So i went to Indore village near Nasik and i discovered this couple who have a "simple" life. They get up and do their daily chores and drink tea and entertain visitors all day long if the visitors happen to reach this remote village. ( i walked for at least 7 kms from the main road each time i visited the village). the sons take care of the farming and the old man talks to people in the village on how to take the village ahead and improve life for people. he relates to his youth and the freedom struggle and tells everyone how things can be worked out. the lady grows flowers like you can see behind them on the side. they are huge hibiscus and the flowers remain fresh for seven days after plucking !!!.


i suddenly discovered a simple life.. growing flowers..and cooking and eating and sleeping... but flowers are ones that survive seven days and are of such huge size that they are not abnormal. that's a successful life. i am focused on one activity but i do it well , very well and get extraordinary results. that's perfection. i had to touch the feet and seek blessings of the lady before i left.


The old man leads a simple life. he talks to people. he inspired his villagers to form a cooperative water users association that has changed the economics of the village, the surplus has helped start a dairy and now he wants them to set up a shopping complex. he is focused on village development and thinks well and does it very well. he had threatened to break the shop of his cousin when he had declined to help the water user association. he uprooted bricks from the shop wall at the age of nearly eighty and managed to get this man to the village to manage the paperwork as he is the most educated person in the village.


i learnt what a simple life is. i learnt what stuff freedom fighters are made of. i learnt humility as they served me tea and opened up all they had for me and wanted me to stay with them longer. i learnt a little bit of gardening also for flowers always spread smiles and these were surely special flowers.

My Enquiry with TED India

TED.com has become a revolution. It was however hardly known (outside the USA)before it had discovered the Internet and it was not amongst the first to discover the Internet either. So while TED has been seen as the place to be for "ideas worth spreading" there has always been more to it. There is more method than madness inside. There is a pattern and things are predictable if you give it a thought.

TED has been raising expectations with its delivery and the way they have been marketing itself in the past few years. It claims to be the best and the most innovative stuff comes here. TED decided to launch TED outside the USA as recession hit and it was evident that money is now somewhere away from the US.

I managed to attend the TED India launch talk at IIMA about a month ago and i was pleasantly surprised to know that TED is playing it safe and conservative and copying the formula from US to make TED India a success. Laxmi was there and as she answered queries she accepted that TED is very conservative and have had few things not working out in the US and they were all out to replicate the US model in India.

It is here that all the cross cultural theorists need to sit up and take notice.. they have a challenge.. TED comes to India to do a Conference or "share" Ideas worth spreading and says it will replicate the way thins happen in India. I wonder if

1. India is structured like US ...
2. India has the same type of infrastructure as the US..
3. Do conversations happen in the same way in India as in the US
4. Do we share ideas in the same way in India as in the US
5. Is TED India really for Indians or does it want to bring the outside world to India cause there ain't much money elsewhere.
6. Is TED really about innovation if it cant innovate given the well known and not so well known differences across US and India.. not just the continents are different even the contents are different here.
7. Given the new ways we look at the world can TED succeed in India by using the same formula it has been using for 25 years in the US ?

As i had not the benefit of the answers and cause i increasingly feel TED is not about innovation as much as it is about oratory .. i decided to drop the cause of applying for the TED fellowships.

But now i am interested in knowing how TED bridges the divide that cross culturalists so much talk about.. or given its experience do we question if a divide exists at all considering the way India is changing very fast... very fast...

Life is Unfair

I work with all types of structures and institutional arrangements and like to say i work on marginalisation issues as well. This experience today beat all of it. I met a 65 year old person today . Nanubhai asked me my well being and when i asked him his well being he bent down to touch my feet. He is 65 has seen more than double of the life that i have seen in 32 years of my life and has successfully navigated through the changes of time and value systems and i am yet to start doing that.
I came as a student to IIMA campus and was first impressed by Nanubhai, a simple sweeper for my dormitory. he would report to duty at 0730 because he came by bus from 15 kms away. his duty started from 0800 but he would start working before that as he did not want to waste time. he was sharp on dot everyday and before 0900 am my room was spanking clean. i never had to tell him and he noticed when he had to clean and wipe the door, when to remove the cobwebs and when to do a more detailed cleaning. His commitment to his job was unmatched and his dedication to his profession was ultimate and to me he is still an ideal of how it is to work with commitment and devotion. i believe he was one of the best teachers for me at IIM and yet he had to bend down to touch my feet. and he taught me humility. and i discovered LIFE IS NOT FAIR.

The Mystic Quality of Life- Things we can never find an answer

I met an unusual soul last year. On campus it was a usual night to the other mess for dinner ...usually alone apart from two interns Sidharth and Anirudh form IIIT Allahabad who made my summer worth the mess by transforming their lives. Only this night it rained. i was waiting for the rain to get a little less as i wanted to get wet ( i love the rain falling on me) and also didn't want to spoil my already too old mobile which was counting its last few months.

i was joined in my long walk from one corner of the campus to another corner by an unlikely partner - a young beautiful girl who got talking to me. What struck me was her confident manner of talking and her smooth way of being comfortable while talking beyond introductions to expressing joys from her inner self. She was going to receive her first ever stipend the next day and was excited about her first earning :) , we parted ways as we reached our dorms (hostels) after a seven to eight minute walk and talk . i had jokingly asked her for a treat.

We kept bumping into each other on campus and she insisted on treating me as it was her first stipend and all her friends were in delhi. Strangely enough i found her taking me out to chocolate room for a treat where we went to and fro walking. Ramita (that was her name) detailed about her career interests and how she would like to return to IIMA for an internship in the next season as well. She talked of many ambitions and dreams of her academic and career pursuits and i was impressed by her confident self and clear thinking. What struck me was her down to earth attitude , willingness to grow and learn by working hard and ability to focus on the right issues.

we had decided that i will treat her in delhi for a return treat during my next travel as it was very very awkward for me to be treated this way. But that was never to be.

Why would someone open up about their dreams and ambitions to a stranger like me in practically our first ever meeting and talk ?

Why would someone seek to learn from the experiences of my life wihtout even knowing me remotely ?

Why would someone share a happiness with me this way ?

i have answers to none of these in connection with ramita. However i guess there are some pursuits we can never complete and some answers we can never have. i can only thank God for the brief moments where i can share someones happiness and be part of it. i can only thank God for considering me worthy of sharing a special joy like the first earning of a young indian. i can only thank GOD for makign me meet astonishing simple but confident young kids who can shape India's and the global future so differntly with the right training. Ramita could have been one such individual .

Yesterday i discovered on facebook something that was totalyl unexpected. We exchanged hardly one or two off line mesages in september and then i came across this http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/group.php?gid=30951019715&ref=mf

This came as a rude shock and brought back the unanswered questions to me. How can death walk in so silently and steal away the unaswers to such ordinary questions and make them so mystic ?

I can only be amazed and dazed by the mystic happenings in life and the unique way it unfolds.. i still wonder what message is stored for me?

Dr Kurien - An inspiring Leader

An old man of 87 years of YOUNG age lies in a hospital bed in India’s commercial capital. He is in one of India’s best hospitals because he deserves India’s best. His age is young for he never stopped working relentlessly like young people with grand ideals. His age is young because his ideas are fresh and radical. His vision is young because it is far reaching and strong, the journey to his goal seems just begun. Out of 87 years he has worked for the same employers for 61 years. Most people retire at the age of 58 in India. The old “young’ man is none other then Dr. Verghese Kurien, an inspiration to the thousands of young leaders who have spawned the rural commercial landscape of India. What Dr. Vikram Sarabhai has been to the Indian Industry and Management education, Dr. Verghese Kurien means the same and much more to the rural India, rural management education and the development ‘Industry’ of India.

He defeated the British with a business model rooted in the illiterate people of rural India (perhaps the best Gandhian I have known thatways), then he beat the casteists and religious fanatics to bring people under one banner. He then beat the barriers of management and institutional theory and Culture (especially work culture). He continued to beat the management pundits and consultants of the business world and this was his leadership- of inspiring each one of them to deliver quality and scale up a commercial activity in rural India that balances the deep sensitivity of an NGO and the astute strategy and efficiency of a shrewd business enterprise – the dairy industry and the GCMMF.

I write this piece as we search for O-ve blood for Dr Kurien in what I hope is not the last of his battles. A few days ago I was stunned to hear that he was giving up. “Giving up” is something I or anyone have never associated with him. It was a shock and a rude one at it.

Dr. Kurien taught me many things. When he welcomed me along with 63 other students as the 20th batch of IRMA (Institute of Rural Management Anand) he told us “Go where you are most needed and not where you are most rewarded.” I have tried to stick to that talisman since that day ten years ago.

His creation AMUL taught me that India does not need replication but amplification of a successful idea. We need to innovate to amplify while we need to imitate to replicate. AMUL is big and successful because it innovates and does not imitate.

He once told and official in front of my batchmates “how unbecoming of you to still carry this when the matter is closed” and it still reminds me of justice, fairness, equality and magnanimity of a warm heart that is not insulated from human feelings by success.

Even in these three small incidents he teaches me clarity of purpose, depth of insight and humanity in approach and that to me is a recipe of leadership from the cult of Dr. Ku and it shall live on till my work can sustain.

http://fnbnews.com/article/detnews.asp?articleid=25563&sectionid=1

The Need of Bihar - Attitude Training

Continuing on my Patna rhetoric is this one more entry. I know a lot of my freinds and readers must be amazed as to whats the big deal about Patna ? well its not so much about patna as it is about myself. This is the year of the realisation and as i have written in an earlier post that for me this means "to bring into real" or to "bring into concrete existence". This sets up my visit to patna as unique as it saw me see an initiative on the ground that i have been closely associated with. Not one but two. Actually three.



Kaushalya foundation started by Kaushal seeks to work with the vegetable vendors and producers. Dr. Ravi Chandra set up the Bihar Develpoment Trust along with Dev Kumar Dubey in Bhagalpur and basically works with microfinance and micro enterprise. Sidharth Jaiswal has set up with his brother Rishi, a workshop and is setting up a business to train farmers for organic agriculture. Together amidst them they give me a wide vareity. One had its crux in the supply-chain logistics and the other in the cost effective systems to maintain consistency and yet the third one is a technology and knowledge based approach to production. Two have been set up by IIMA alumni and other two are IRMA alumni .



All three need to work with the rural and the underprivileged populace of Bihar and all three rely on churning the local economy out of its slumber and start rotating capital. That Survival alone is next to impossible in Bihar leads us to realise that a group is essential to sustain and thats what the thier multitude helps us in . they can be a group with their individual identities and yet all work for the common communities of the downtrodden and the rural serving their different needs.



To the extent of nature of activity their problems and woes are similar and unique. A generation has passed in Bihar when there has been no significant opportunity to work and that has rendered us a young generation that has never seen work happening and the desire and motivation to work for a cause is lacking often. This poses the biggest threat to entrepreneurship in Bihar - the lack of human resources. While there might not be a dearth of Manpower but there is definitely a lack of human resources. In short it means there is potential in manpower but they do not know how to realise it.. they are raw material and not yet resources that can be used to deliver productivity.



There is a missing link of refining the raw materials to make them resources that can drive production and productivity. Most funding agencies and HR professionals will jump on this and come out with a skill training module for the same. To me there is a deeper understanding thats needed here. When i have not seen something in my life and i also have my strong impressions i end up having a belief or an attitude towards the phenomenon in question. If this logic seems right to you then it should be logical to conclude that what we need is something that we can call as "attitude training".



what is an attitude training?



an attitude training is a instruction that seeks to make you learn new beliefs and hence it sets you on the road to develop new attitude and often this involves challenging your existing attitude/s. An attitude training will go beyond giving you a skill as it will alter the approach you take to a phenomenon.



thus a training which trains you to a new attitude is what we call as an attitude training. However it might be deeper than that. changing an attitude often does not involve just training at the attitude level but needs to go deeper. As one HR tool suggests that human behaviour arises out of attitudes which arise out of beliefs and they in turn arise out of values. some people have debated whether beliefs arise out of values or vice versa. whatever maybe the agreement on the same, we know for sure that one of the ways to change attitude is to change the belief systems. in order to change the belief systems we need to challenge the existeing belief systems as they have been in a state for decades together hence they are not easy to change.

so we need a module that challenges existing notions and open up people to challenge thier own beliefs and then give other beliefs a chance and then give them the inputs to choose the set of beliefs that will govern thier future and not what has governed thier past. once this is accomplished the attitude change will follow. one of the best examples of belief changing modules that i have seen is the "Shodhyatra" conducted by Prof. Anil Gupta of IIMA. it has a strong module of challening ones physcial limits which enable one to challenge their belief systems. however the calibre needed to carry the discussions beyodn that is very high and it is a difficult task to accomplish and probably the defence forces are one organisation which have been able to change attitudes of youth who enroll.

so the serach for an attitude training module is on and we need to figure out one soon. advice and feedback on the same is solicited to help BIHAR.